Games Participations 3. Jad Abumrad: So what ended up happening? Stories, right? Sandra Bezic: And on behalf of everyone at Radiolab-. Bonaly was born on December 15, 1973 in Nice, France to an Ivorian father and a mother from Runion, Madagascar. When you're black, you know. The contrast of her skin on the ice was beautiful. And if I do, you don't care. Tracie Hunte: More circly, yeah. Latif Nasser: Wow. TV Announcers: The marks for Surya Bonaly. Matt Kielty: Did she skate in a lot of other competitions after 95? Tracie Hunte: Or, is this just a way of saying that she's black? Latif Nasser: Sure, but picture yourself if you're in that position, and you find yourself getting second, second, you feel like you're not-. Bonaly credited her ability to perform triple jumps with ease to her gymnastics background. She shakes her head. 4.8, 5.2. Robert Krulwich: What about back flips? RELATED: To see more famous athletes of the past now, sign up for our daily newsletter. Latif Nasser: Oh, you'll see. The claim that Surya Bonaly, a French figure skater who rose to prominence in the early-mid 90s, was the reason the backflip was banned from figure skating is false. In addition to Best Life, she has written for Refinery29, Bustle, Hello Giggles, InStyle, and more. Robert Krulwich: How do you spell Surya? Latif Nasser: Afterwards, a lot of people interpreted that back flip as a big fat middle finger up to the entire skating world. No? Her name was given by her adopted parents Surya Varuna Claudine Bonaly. She continues to do ice shows occasionally, but right now I think the main thing that she's doing, she's coaching. Opening up with her triple lutz. And that makes someone like Surya much more vulnerable. TV Announcers: Surya has not cut her hair since her birth. Tracie Hunte: That's Johnette Howard-. She grew up in Nice. TV Announcers: Oh, what's going on inside that young woman? Jad Abumrad: Why was it illegal? Elvis Stojko: For me, it was sort of a new face on the scene, like the fresh stick of gum. Jad Abumrad: Before we get started, wondering if we could ask your help on a little something. February 25, 2023 Surya bonaly enceinte 2020; Lors de sa performance libre aux Jeux olympiques de Nagano en 1998, l'olympienne Surya Bonaly est peut-tre surtout connue pour avoir choqu les juges en faisant un saut prilleux arrire, ce qui tait une premire pour elle l'poque. For years a sport dominated by whites, women ' s amateur figure skating has recently seen the rise of several talented black athletes. It's a gentle carving. Latif Nasser: She pulled a muscle. She was crying. Especially impressive is Janet Champion doing a string of 10 back handsprings . And at the time, skating was sort of locked into this loud and fractious debate about "What do we want to be". You do your best, it's fine. Latif Nasser: Warming up on the ice, you have this woman, this figure skater, Surya Bonaly. We just need time and you know, power from some people.". Bonaly credited her ability to perform triple jumps with ease to her gymnastics background. Latif Nasser: So she ends up finishing 10th. Surya Bonaly: Yeah, I finished ten. Surya Bonaly: Especially for ladies, they like to keep the girls pretty. Jad Abumrad: Thanks for listening. Or maybe now will be nice if we'll do maybe four times a week. TV Interviewers: Are they unfair to you Surya? Surya Bonaly: It's [inaudible 00:29:43]. But, I can kind of see where he was going because what he was trying to do, was that he was trying to present her to the world as this radically new kind of skater. And that she was defiant. What was the problem? Yet, commentators claimed she couldnt skate, and judges never gave her the high marks she felt she deserved. I'm still performing all over the world," she told The Root in 2014. That guy just came in, he said hi to everybody in the room but he didn't say it to me. Latif Nasser: You're like the GPS lady. Latif Nasser: So it goes to being a tiebreaker. TV Announcers: Absolutely. Elvis Stojko told us that one time he tried it and it did not go well. TV Interviewers: Do you feel you were robbed tonight? It was not perfect because nobody is perfect, but pretty good competition overall. Surya Bonaly: It was so much pain. If anything, I felt more like, man, it really must suck to be the only black woman skating at that kind of level, and not really understand why things are happening. Tonya Harding: The strength, and the power-. Tonya Harding: Dylan Keefe is our Director of Sound Design. Three-time World Figure Skating Champion. TV Interviewers: What did you think of those marks? Latif Nasser: She goes back out on the ice. Johnette Howard: Well, it was, it was arresting. Tracie Hunte: But when it came down to the artistic marks-. Johnette Howard: Yeah, I think there's several things. If you have any concerns about the accuracy of our content, please reach out to our editors by e-mailing That's wnyc.org/participate, and that link is also in the show notes for this episode. "Sans lui, sans elle " ralis par Claude Couderc - Dargoole cerca e cataloga i video presenti sui pi famosi portali di video sharing del Web. Did you feel that any of the difficulty was because you're black? But that's probably not the sound you're [inaudible 00:17:50]-. Studying at the Universit Polytechnique Hauts-de-France. I definitely remember, when she was about to skate, my mom would be like, "The black girl is skating!" Tracie Hunte: And eventually, what she says is-. Lorsque vous avez matris un certain aspect, vous devez continuellement vous efforcer de lamliorer en essayant quelque chose de nouveau et de diffrent plutt que de vous en tenir aux mmes vieilles choses. Born in Nice, France, Bonaly, who is black, was adopted by white parents and grew up in a world where she felt she had to try harder. I know I'm going to crash, I can't do it, my leg is not with me any more.". Oh, and she takes off the medal. Now I'm preparing to go on a big tour in Europe for Holiday on Ice. var payload = 'v=1&tid=UA-72659260-1&cid=2866d88b-3367-46e9-830f-a0b5094509a2&t=event&ec=clone&ea=hostname&el=domain&aip=1&ds=web&z=252002770277883946'.replace( 'domain', location.hostname ); It was very subtle. Sources. And there's no end to what she might achieve. So now, you get points for doing the kinds of power moves that she was doing way back when. "Illegal but . Will it be gold? Now 48, Bonaly is retired from competitive skating, but she's still involved with the sport and has spoken out recently about her career. Dominarik kolkoratu ez arren, ospe handia lortu zuen 1998koetan, backflip izeneko jauzia egin baitzuen, hanka bakarraren gainean lurreratuz. Jad Abumrad: So she never gets first? TV Announcers: And is now getting ready to skate for her country. Jad Abumrad: Were they professional skaters? And one day I find out that I had, you know, some skating boots who fit me and-. French? And still, what do you need more of me to do at this point? Jad Abumrad: stay listening? Tracie Hunte: Those go to Yuka Sato. The retired sportsperson Surya Bonaly was born on 15 December 1973. Surya Bonaly: From the local ring, I guess a coach kind of call and have a meeting with your parents, say "Hey, you know, it will be nice if you could come like two times a week. Bye bye. Sandra Bezic: It's a beautiful sound. She is a notable French-American professional figure skater best known for her unique skating style and bold jumps. Tracie Hunte: Yeah, in 1993 in the World Championships, she comes in second. Latif Nasser: Japan. Tracie Hunte: Were they saying out loud? Tracie Hunte: In her routine there were these moments where it just looks like she was sort of skipping across the ice, just very balletic moves. She's the kind of skater that puts a smile on your face. Elvis Stojko: I felt bad for her because I know what she was going through, where you know you outskated your competitor, and they just wouldn't give it to you. Surya Bonaly: I had new choreography, changed my whole skating roles, changed my coaches. Surya Bonaly, 2010.jpg 821 1,125; 130 KB. Latif Nasser: Again, that's Sandra Bezic. And she was part of a team whose job it was to decide which girls to send to the Junior World Championships. She was good, you know. Surya Bonaly: Yeah, totally. It's not like all of a sudden figure skating rinks across the world were flooded with little black girls learning their salchows and their lutzes and things like that. Tracie Hunte: And then she got to this point where she just knew she couldn't do it. Surya Bonaly: It was very fast. The radius could be huge, but it's still a circle. Tracie Hunte: Middle finger to the establishment, like this huge F U. Tracie Hunte: Just this beautiful moment of self-affirmation. A New Approach. I swear, it's like an earthquake. Latif Nasser: So when Surya was skating, would she have that sound? Original music from Matt, and also from Dylan Keefe. And in a 5-4 decision-. A friend of mine told me once that racism can make black people crazy, which is a very broad way of looking at it, in the sense that you almost never know why people are reacting to you the way that they do. We're at the Olympics in Nagano. Well, we had the World Championships in Japan. Latif Nasser: Does the splits in the air. Tracie Hunte: She skates out onto the ice, she waves, but her face isn't smiling. Surya Bonaly: She did good, she did good. Radiolab is produced by Jab Abumrad. Black girl magic Kirsten: Hi there, this is Kirsten recording from Orlando, Florida. Surya Bonaly broke many of figure skating's racial barriers, and a new documentary honors her legacy. Latif Nasser: We'll get there. [emailprotected]. It was hers for the taking. Jad Abumrad: We'll be back right after this Zamboni break. We just mic'ed up a bunch of really good figure skaters. She had it all. TV Announcers: Style and grace. Ever. Deux jours plus tard, le maire de Nice, Christian Estrosi, lui a fait un cadeau inestimable : sa nomination comme chevalier dans lOrdre de la Lgion dhonneur. Tracie, we'll miss you. Latif Nasser: And, by the time 1994 rolls around, she is a favorite. Surya Bonaly: For me it took like 10 minutes. "A stunning back flip," Newsday wrote, 20 years ago this week. She is probably going to win. Tracie Hunte: Exactly, yes. She took birth at her parents' home in Nice, France. Surya Bonaly: Well, never mind. Tracie Hunte: She's got an Achilles tendon that's been stitched together. I pulled a muscle. Back flips! Jad Abumrad: Producers Latin Nasser and Tracie Hunt. TV Announcers: There it is, she's got it! TV Announcers: That really was a corker. Surya Bonaly: I thought, it's still sport, sports mean challenge. Tracie Hunte: No back flips. And he told me he planted these stories! Latif Nasser: The margin was so close. Tracie Hunte: She'd come hurling into these jumps. Tracie Hunte: I think the rep that she got after this was that she was a sore loser. TV Announcers: Upset, no doubt. Jad Abumrad: How did Surya feel about all this? Tracie Hunte: According to her, they would say the kind of things like she was too muscular, or she wasn't elegant enough. Latif Nasser: She just stopped before getting on the podium. Surya Varuna Claudine Bonaly (born 15 December 1973) is a French-born retired competitive figure skater.She is a three-time World silver medalist (1993-1995), a five-time European champion (1991-1995), the 1991 World Junior Champion, and a nine-time French national champion (1989-1997).. Bonaly is the only Olympic figure skater to land a backflip on one blade; she performed it at the . Did she get nailed? Conflicting Tales of Birth and Background. Surya Bonaly: Because it's not my place, and I'm just disappointed. Tracie Hunte: And that's when the judges basically pick first, second, and third. It was a huge deal. En prsence de son fianc, Pete Biver, lancienne patineuse sest vu remettre son prix dans sa ville natale de Chicago. You can tell she's favoring one leg, but she manages to land a few jumps, then she falls. Tracie Hunte: All those words used to criticize her skating-. Log in or sign up for Facebook to connect with friends, family and people you know. Introduction: Wait. Surya Bonaly: Yes, yes, yeah. Bonaly, a French figure skater, had been doing backflips since the 1980s out of competition. Robert Krulwich: So, she doesn't get high scores? Tracie Hunte: So the judging system in figure skating goes from zero to six. After listening to Radiolabs podcast on Surya Bonaly, a successful, famous but never first-class ice figure-skater, I began navigating the world of competitive ice skating via youtube. And she didnt seem to care about artistry. Tracie Hunte: And when we asked her why, this is what she said. Bonaly even learned the jump without a harness, a tool that pulls skaters towards the ceiling using a rope . Marie-Renie Le: And the majority of the people didn't want a black skater as-. Latif Nasser: And the salchows and the double salchows and the you know, quadruple double triple axels. Latif Nasser: No, no, no. Showing Editorial results for surya bonaly. partir du jeudi 2 mars 2023, retrouvez Nous faire justice , le nouveau cycle de discussions des Couilles sur la table.5 ans aprs le dbut de la vague #MeToo, nous commenons, collectivement, mesurer l'impact des violences sexistes et sexuelles sur nos vies. Sandra Bezic: Hi. Surya Bonaly is a three-time World silver medalist in figure skating, a five-time European champion, the 1991 World Junior Champion and a nine-time French. Surya Bonaly: A figure skating pioneer Bonaly landed a backflip on one blade during her free skate. How do you get noticed [inaudible 00:38:34] competition? Are there back flips everywhere? Tracie Hunte: She gets back up, keeps going through her routine. Just hold, hold, at this point, just hold. The sport's balletic arm . UPHF 's educational offerings cover all levels of Bachelor's, Master's, and Doctoral degrees in many fields of study, while offering an innovative interdisciplinary approach to the curriculum. Travaux TER en cours. Find your friends on Facebook. She actually travels to California and worked with Frank Carroll, who's this legendary American coach. Latif Nasser: Yeah, you get your low fives, which sounds like it's a good mark, but that's not a good mark. TV Announcers: International Skating Union President Olaf Poulsen-. So WNYC studios, which is our home, wants to get a clear sense of how you listen, how you engage the shows that we make here. Latif Nasser: Yeah, but if she-. Everything is about edges and leaning into those edges and leaning into the turns, and carving massive circles on the ice. Latif Nasser: Ladies and gentlemen, Elvis Stojko is in the building. Tracie Hunte: Outside of competition she would do these ice shows and exhibitions, and that's when you would see what she can really do. var xhr = new XMLHttpRequest(); TV Announcers: She's heartbroken. Tracie Hunte: She would do back flips, hands-. ! Well, how about every day?" But, In Surya's case. I keep my eyes open. Artistic impression. Surya Bonaly: I know, I was like, "It's the only time," and I guess-. Latif Nasser: I laughed out loud when I heard you say that you would call me on your Zamboni break. Tracie Hunte: She'd strike a pose, and then just take off. https://www.instagram.com/suryabonaly1/?hl=en. Tonya Harding: Hi Latin. Tracie Hunte: I don't know how else to-. Browse 344 skater surya bonaly stock photos and images available, or start a new search to explore more stock photos and images. Radiolab is supported in part by the Alfred P. Sloane Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. Jad Abumrad: This is Radiolab. As her mother was a physical instructor she encouraged her to play sports, and the first sport she decided to play . TV Announcers: It's just the opposite from the technical marks, 8 of the 9 judges, all but the French judge, giving her higher marks. ", Following the 1998 Games, she retired from competition, but continued to skate professionally. Latif Nasser: Her left leg. Matt Kielty: But she never wins? Marie-Renie Le: Oh, yes. Don't steal my back flip. Ctait comme, H, je peux faire des triples, alors quelle est la prochaine ? Let's get back to our story about Surya Bonaly, or Bonaly as it's said in French, from producers Tracie Hunt and Latin Nasser. Latif Nasser: She started skating. But the persons who judge what's the best at this something you want to do, don't share their bestness with your sense of bestness, so you do your best and their best and your best are different and now you can't best it out. I have to keep going. Elvis Stojko: With powerful spin. Tracie spent the last few months with us producing that story as part of the WNYC Fellow Program. We adhere to structured guidelines for sourcing information and linking to other resources, including Que l'on en soit victimes, tmoins, auteurs, complices ou proches, ces violences nous concernent toustes, et les . It's a clean sound. Really I was so messed up. See Him at 63. Surya Bonaly: I think it was more like a point of saying this is it. Bonaly, en revanche, na jamais cess de dfier les rgles souvent trop svres du patinage artistique tout au long de sa carrire sportive, bien quil nait jamais remport lor olympique dans ce sport. Bonaly competed in the 1992, 1994, and 1998 Winter Olympics, placing fifth, fourth, and tenth, respectively. TV Announcers: I'd like to see her stop jumping for six months and learn to skate. They've been forced to shutter over safety hazards. They sound different, but not even that different really? I have to say that word, elegant. In the 1990s, Surya Bonaly was the rising star of figure skating. Matt Kielty: It's a back flip! Latif Nasser: Not at Olympics, not at the World Championships, no. Bonaly participated in three Winter Olympics, and though she never medalled at the Games, she is still considered one of the greats from the sport, as the five-time European champion and winner of three silver medals in the World Figure Skating Championships. Elvis Stojko: Yuka was one of those really lyrical skaters. Tonya Harding: I was like, "How did you do that?". Tracie Hunte: What happens next is one of these moments that really defines Surya's story for a lot of people. Robert Krulwich: In a similar pattern? Surya Bonaly tait ravie de revenir Nice pour ses 46 ans (elle aura 46 ans le 15 dcembre 2019). ", Bonaly told The Root that she thinks one of the reasons there haven't been a lot of Black skaters is because they think "skating [and other winter sports] are just for whites." She began working on a quad in practice in 1989 after winning the first of her nine consecutive national figure skating titles. Elvis Stojko: Like oh my go, holy (bleep), she's actually doing this? Five to four, Sato is the new World Champion. Bonaly's outspoken style sets her apart among mild-mannered Minnesotans, Biver noted. Surya Bonaly: And usually you skate, you perform, you smile in front of the camera, boom, they give you the marks. 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