is for Armi San Marco, an italian factory making black Provenance: Topsfield, Massachusetts. dry well before oiling. Once Kraft Auction Service LLC. Pick Up Will be Available at Our Kraft Facility in Valparaiso, 2- Day Online Only You can check prices on gunbroker to see what they're going for. What I do know, Italian made .44 Cal BP revolver (6 shot), bought from Cabela's around 1996. This gun was thoroughly rebuilt by Oglesby & Oglesby and is a fine revolver having had the cylinder and hammer re-hardened, and wire springs installed, including the Ruger style coil handspring and plunger. Pistol - Made in Italy . Over 2000 Lots of 40+ Guns, Coins, Vintage Advertising, Antiques, Tools, Equipment, New Building Supplies & Much More!! The Italian manufacturer ASM was sold and nowadays the pistol is made by Ardesa and imported to the USA by Traditions Firearms of Old Saybrook, Connecticut. Terms: Cash, all major credit cards, or good check with positive ID. Kraft Auction Service LLC. --------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------. Brass front sight, notched hammer rear sight . A.S.M. for example $500, but the same gun with a bad or rusted bore may If we receive written bids on a particular lot for identical amounts, and these are the highest bids on the lot at the auction, it will be sold to the person whose written bid was received and accepted first. ASM are not the best in the world they've had problems with soft internals. Its parts will interchange with all 3 of my Colt 2nd Gen 1851, except the barrel (the pins at the front of the frame are placed differently). More Details. Metal black powder coated hardware. As neat as that would seem it can also be a curse. By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. They were based primarily on the early 1st. A fine 18K white gold automatic chronograph wristwatch Cosmograph Daytona, Ref: 116519, Rolex. A prospective buyer must complete and sign a registration form and provide identification before bidding. The Colt uses a "rampant" pony where the ASM is a pony just standing. I don't have a box or paperwork, but you will receive everything you see in the pictures. Pistol is chambered for a .44 caliber black powder load. I have a pair of ASM-made and marked, EMF Hartford Colt reproduction revolvers in .45 Colt, 5 1/2" barrels. I have an ASM Colt clone. Sold Pending Funds -- Thanks Good Afternoon:I have for sale an ASM 1847 Walker Colt in nice condition.Marked "BH" -- Made in 1996Lower right side of barrel marked "SM Black Powder Only Cal. Serial number 09485. Non Payment Navis Pack and Ship Joliet, IL. Pietta, Steel Frame 4-7/8" Sheriff G18513 $279.00 $279.00 . and its consignor(s) make no warranty or representation, express or implied, that the purchaser will acquire any copyright or reproduction rights to any lot sold. We'll start about there. HENRI NAVARRE (1885-1970) Vasecirca 1930glass with black interlayer powder decoration with hot-a Rolex. Serial Number E05147, Made in Italy, 8 inch barrel , Single Action. Joined: Feb 2011. shall not be liable for any amount in excess of that paid by the purchaser. *Any items remaining after Saturday of sale will be recosigned on buyers behalf in next Auction*. ASM 1849 Wells Fargo. The bottom of the cylinders are still shiny. Made in Italy, In the case of a tie bid, precedence is given to the earliest bid. Registered user must be the buyer, with his or her own money. If property is not picked up within the pick-up days following the sale, whether or not payment has been made, Kraft Auction Service LLC. On the cylinder is PATENT N.All help is appreciated. ASM BLACK POWDER HANDGUN 44 CAL ITALY 249.6 BLACK POWDER HAND GUN "PISTOL" 44 CALIBER, MADE IN ITALY. such as gun broker and auction arms or even proxibid enter your In addition, a defaulting purchaser will be deemed to have granted us a security interest in, and we may retain as collateral security for such purchaser's obligations to us, any property in our possession owned by such purchaser. AFTER THE SALE It wears Pietta gripframe screws, too. They moved the factory from where all the other factories are to a more remote area and some of the workers didn't want to leave their home so they lost a lot of expertise. If for any reason a purchased lot cannot be delivered in the same condition as at the time of sale, or should any purchased lot be stolen, mis-delivered or lost prior to delivery, Kraft Auction Service LLC. black powder pistol | 205 | 50 | Lc | 156.2135ms. I've never had any problems with them. To add to the confusion Chiappa did purchase the 92 rifle tooling and left over parts from ASM. It is a very pretty gun with a 24 octogon barrel and a case hardened receiver. 50-250 USD What does asm on a pistol stand for? I do have to give credit to ASM for the fact that most of their reproductions were historically correct. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. MOWREY 58 CAL BLACK POWDER PERCUSSION MUSKET, #2480. 1851 Navy Revolver by ASM, .44 cal, black powder-No . Pick Up Will be Available at Our Kraft Facility in Valparaiso ASM Black Powder .44 Cal Revolver. I have a 3rd Model Dragoon 1851, markings on the barrel say "<>Gardone V.T.- Brescia" and "Cal 44 Black Powder Only Made In Italy" It does not have the slots for attaching a stock because at the time it was made the BATF rules for the stock were in doubt. Settlement day of auction. will only look to the principal for payment. Background fee for CHL holders is $15.00 per gun. 2713224, circa 2000, automatic chronograph movement, cal. There is an engraving (naval battle scene?) This is often Top is labeled "Navy Arms Ridgefield nj." Bottom side has a six digit number "1001XX". They are two different Italian firearms manufacturing companies. A.S.M. Antique Wood 7-Drawer Printers File Cabinet. Unfortunately, ASM also changed their name to Chaparral about the same time. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Auctioneer's Discretion Sign up for our bi-weekly newsletter. Sounds like 1860 Armies to me(they have a naval scene as well)If the barrels are round they're Armies if octagonal they're Navies. As I see it though, these pistols are the equivalent of comtemporary Piettas. In the case of a tie bid, the winning bidder will determined by the auctioneer at his or her sole discretion. Lyman Bullet Mould Two-Cavity 44 Cal 128gr Round Ball . what ever happen to "army san marcos" guns ? A quick look netted this info from a CAS City post: ASM was one of the first Italian manufacturers back in 1960 along with Uberti. frame colt 1860 tends to sell in the $200 +/- area. f.) to not allow any bids at any upcoming auction by or on behalf of the buyer a buyer's premium and the applicable sales tax added to the final total. The revolver is engraged with beautiful designs. They thought if they started raising the price on their guns to in the, same range as Uberti that all the problems would go away. The metal spring that is in the hand grip is broken. Office Phone: 815-630-5673 Email: gtourville@navisjoliet.com 36 Made in Italy. Bidding begins to close at 5pm CDT/6pmEST To date I have only had two minor issues with it: - 1) the firing pin retainer had to tapped in a bit as dragged on the frame very mildly, local smith fixed that in 2 seconds. Telephone Bids The auctioneer has the right at his or her absolute and sole discretion to refuse any bid, to advance the bidding in such a manner as he or she may decide, to withdraw any lot, and in the case of error or dispute, and whether during or after the sale, to determine the successful bidder, to continue the bidding, to cancel the sale or to reoffer and resell the item in dispute. I couldn't identify the makers mark although it does have Italian markings. You have not registered for this auction. Eastern Shore, Va. L. longshot3 OP. It only has the SM on the barrel. When making a bid, a bidder is accepting personal liability to pay the purchase price, including the buyer's premium, all applicable taxes and all other applicable charges, unless it has been explicitly agreed upon in writing with Kraft Auction Service LLC before the commencement of the sale that the bidder is acting as agent on behalf of an identified third party acceptable to Kraft Auction Service LLC., and that Kraft Auction Service LLC. This is an unusual brass single shot, .31 caliber, in-line, black powder percussion Derringer. NRA Life, Ozark Posse, Southern Missouri Rangers, Bear Creek Volunteers, Dooley Gang, Geezer Gang. Appears used very little. Kelvin Fisher - AU19500120 - 219-851-5670 CAS, SASS, Cat: Sharpshooter .44 Cal. 44 MADE IN ITALY) . On lots with a low estimate of $500 and above and if a prospective buyer makes arrangements with us prior to the commencement of the sale we will use reasonable efforts to contact them to enable them to participate in the bidding by telephone and we do not accept liability for failure to do so or for errors and omissions in connection with telephone bidding. Guns Pistols Colt Replica Italian etc. Tuesday December 29th and Wednesday December 30th 16520, CIRCA 2007 Movement :Automatic, cal. ), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (flint), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (perc), United States Patent Firearms Revolvers/Pistols, Century Arms International (CAI) - Shotguns. Steel frame with consecutive serial numbers, manufactured in 1982. I have two ASM revolvers, both were imports thru EMF. What are the disadvantages of shielding a thermometer? Weekly Auctions of Exceptional Items. Depending on model and condition there can be considerable spread in value. Navy Arms .36 Cal Cap and Ball Black Powder Revolver. Ignition is #10 Revolver Percussion Caps. Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. Powered by Invision Community. That is a felony. 1860 Army's in really nice shape. Measures approximately 22" in length and wheels are approximately 12" in diameter. This is a modern, working reproduction built in Italy by Armi San Marco (A.S.M.) But, since he doesn't shoot "cowboy" any more it's part of my backup pair to my main Colt guns). Larry Fisher - 574-298-8909, Auction Terms & Conditions Auction Terms & Conditions Auction Terms & Conditions General Terms: Cash, all major credit cards, or good check with positive ID. Serial Number: E01965 Year of Manufacture: 1994 Caliber: .44 Cap and Ball (Percussion) Action Type: Single Action Cap & Ball (Percussion) Revolver Markings: The right side of the barrels are marked "ASM BLACK POWDER ONLY CAL. Replacement price on this revolver is upwards of $300 in our area. They were in a nut shell, junk. c.) to cancel the sale I was told a few years back that the other gun makers in Italy approached them and requested that they work harder on the craftsmanship as they were giving the Italian gun makers a bad name. They make the guns for Chiappa now and the quality is still the worst out of Italy. If any dispute arises after the sale, the Kraft Auction Service LLC. Steel frame with consecutive serial numbers, manufactured in 1982. He knew the early production were quality gun and at some point there was a move and or change of management and quality went in the crapper. Thanks for clearing that up for me Steve, I do know however that the 74's made by the Chiappa are, having problems. RO11, Cowboy Mounted Shooting, Hunting and Cowboy Action Shooting, Parts are still available on a limited basis from. Grip and frame finish are consumer finished. Items under $1,000 are collated upon request. Which is greater 36 yards 2 feet and 114 feet 2 inch? Since 2002, LiveAuctioneers has made exceptional items available for safe purchase in secure online auctions. A pair of antique Black Forest walnut carved plaques, with applied full body carvings of hanging stags with bandolier, black powder percussion guns, rope and other decoration, 37”H x 20”W, HENRI NAVARRE (1885-1970) Vase circa 1930 glass with black interlayer powder decoration with hot-applied decoration of circles and headbands, engraved 'H. How would I go about selling them? No, there is little if any chance "any" parts you currently see, other than springs, that would work in an ASM. 44 Made in Italy"Underneath the loading lever is the serial number "E51471"Above the wedge slot ""US" and ". At our option, payment will not be deemed to have been made in full until we have collected funds represented by checks, or in the case of bank or cashier's checks, we have confirmed their authenticity. ASM was so bad, even ASM parts seldom fit. 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