That said, if I field this again in the future, Ill probably sub in Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer for Ferrell and Reuschel. He led the league in innings pitched, complete games, and strikeouts in '85. Over a five-year span, he led the league in saves twice, finished in the top six in Cy Young award voting four times, and turned in one of the most dominant seasons in baseball history in 1990: 0.61 ERA, 48 saves, 73 K to 4 BB in 73.1 IP. But whos the second best relief pitcher ever? By 76 he was pitching again and all three of his 20-win seasons came post-surgery. Next came Cy Young. If thats the case, Kimbrel probably wont move down these rankings at all but he also wont move any higher. The knock against Wagner is that he got some easy saves throughout his career. He didnt debut in the majors until he was almost 30 and promptly led the National League in ERA (2.43), games pitched (71), and winning percentage (.833). In the postseason, Papelbon started his career with 25 consecutive scoreless innings in October, including 4.1 of those innings in the 2007 World Series. He would have had more wins if he hadnt been held back to face the Yankees, or had been given better run support . The vast majority of these pitcher's careerswere focused in places other thanNew York, Philadelphia, or Boston. All are in or will be in their respective sports Hall of Fame. The average run scoring in the period was some 20-25 percent more than the league average. Its much easier to pitch one scoreless inning than to face the full lineup once or even twice. He went 3517 in the minors. Pitching for the Cubs, Reulbach teamed up with Mordecai Brown to make one of the great pitching tandems in baseball history. He pitched the vast majority of his career for the Pittsburgh Pirates. Always ranking QBs. He was voted the league MVP as the Reds won the pennant. Gossages 1975 season is still the greatest in baseball history by a relief pitcher in terms of WAR (8.2); he had a 1.84 ERA, a league-leading 26 saves, and an absurd 141.2 innings in 62 relief appearances. That's the type of respect he garnered. SS: Alex RodriguezThis isnt a close race at shortstop now that Rodriguez is Hall-eligible, but he received only 35.7% of the vote in his second year on the BBWAA ballot in 2023. This was a formula we have only recently seen again with the deep bullpens of many championship teams. Bob Caruthers was between Cone and Appier, but a lot of his value was from playing the field as well. Wagner has rapidly gained BBWAA support in recent years, rising to 68.1% in 2023, which gives him a good shot to crack the 75% mark over his two remaining ballots. Comparing across eras isnt easy, as the role of a relief pitcher has changed drastically over the years. Dave Parker, Does he belong in the Hall of Fame? Four pitchers in the HOF fall into this categoryDizzy Dean, Lefty Gomez, Sandy Koufax, and Addie Joss. Tom Brady lost three Super Bowls. Sportswriters and players wondered how Pierce could go toe-to-toe with the firepower of the Yankees, coming armed with slap hitters Nellie Fox, Luis Aparicio, and Minnie Minoso. He led the league in ERA+ and shutouts (nine) in '73, but didnt get the attention he deserved for the Cy Young award. Bold - Indicates Player is not yet eligible for the Hall of Fame or was First. What if Tony Mullane had been allowed to pitch for Cincinnati in 1885? Among the 65 pitchers with the longest careers, his 2.80 K/BB ranks fifth. Based strictly on peak performance, Eckersley would rank in the top five of relievers. Sabathia is at 3.5 right now. He was a better pitcher than some of his contemporaries who made the HOFHoyt, Haines, and Ted Lyons. In the 1970s, the closer was the pitcher that would enter the game with the bases loaded in the sixth inning and try to work out of a jam and then sometimes finish the game. Reggie Jackson struck out the most times. Ed Reulbach, Tommy Bridges and Bert Blyleven all fall in this category. I looked at some pitchers with shorter careers as well, and included some whose careers I thought made the greatest statements. He was consistently good, winning 14 or more games 11 consecutive years, 6474. What if Bucky Walters had started his career in Cincinnati rather than struggling in Philadelphia? Follow Cody Swartz on Twitter (@cbswartz5). This gives us a cut off of 2500 innings to use on the short end, while looking for candidates to make our list of best pitchers not in the HOF. Although posting a fine season in '67, he was never accepted by the Reds faithful, and was sent to Atlanta during the '68 season. Four pitchers in the HOF fall into this categoryDizzy Dean, Lefty Gomez, Sandy Koufax, and Addie Joss. Walters spent his developing years struggling in Philadelphias bandbox of a stadium. Ill add in hyperlinks for each subsequent post, allowing anyone who happens upon this post later to easily be able to navigate between the different positions. His 3,701 Ks make Blyleven fifth all-time. Babe went on to pitch the rest of his career for Pittsburgh. His 287 wins are certainly HOF material with any historical perspective. 13)Wilbur Cooper (1912-1926) (216-178; 2.89 ERA; ERA+ 116; 35 SHO; 3480 IP/ 3415 H/ H/9 8.8; 1252 K/ 853 BB; 1.47 ratio; 1.226 WHIP). His ERA is outstanding, his K/BB ratio is excellent, and he has enough wins and shutouts. getting voted into the Hall of Fame is difficult for relief . Wagner had three of them, and they came in three consecutive years (1997, 1998, and 1999). The SPORTS REFERENCE and STATHEAD trademarks are owned exclusively by Sports Reference LLC. The oldest and wisest twin. Go Orange. Not retired by 2017. Use without license or authorization is expressly prohibited. He displayed consistent excellence throughout his career. Rollie Fingers may be the most decorated relief pitcher in baseball history, and that list includes Mariano Rivera. His dominance was evident with every 100 MPH fastball he threw. Scary, we know. Most Unique Players by Age by Similarity Scores, Most Games without a World Series Appearance, Most Games without a Postseason Appearance, Highest Career and Single-Season Salaries, Scores from any date in Major League history, Minor, Foreign, College, & Black Baseball, Frequently Asked Questions about MLB and Baseball, Subscribe to Stathead Baseball: Get your first month FREE. Historically, pitchers like Red Ruffing, Red Faber, Ted Lyons, Eppa Rixey, and Burleigh Grimes are in the HOF mostly because of their win totals. His name is best known for the elbow surgery named after him that, not only prolonged his career, but many after him. averages are skewed due to a lack of players at that position, so Joe Nathan and Jonathan Papelbon both went one-and-done after falling shy of 5% of the BBWAA vote in their 22 ballot debuts. He pitched at the height of the live ball era on and against some of the greatest offensive teams ever gathered. His 2.52 career ERA was the lowest by a pitcher with at least 2,000 innings pitched since Walter Johnson. He found success again after arriving in Chicago with the Cubs during the '70 season, winning 17 games in both '71 and '72. Curiously enough, Eckersley didnt win the Cy Young award in his best year but then won the award along with the league MVP two seasons later in 1992 when he went 7-1 with a 1.91 ERA and 51 saves, then the second-best single-season total of all-time. He had a 1.80 ERA after the age of 38. He pitched for the Boston Red Sox in the early teens but injury caused him to establish less than 1,500 career innings. Oct 14, 2022, 04:09 PM EDT. It took the veterans committee some 90 years to find and induct Vic Willis. Your email address will not be published. Billy Wagner. I had one once, and I lost him.. Important: This chart does not include side-by-side comparisons for Hall of Fame pitchers who spent their entire career in the Negro Leagues (Baseball Almanac does not have the data from the Negro League).Those truly elite twirlers are: Ray Brown, Andy Cooper, Leon Day, Martin Dihigo, Bill Foster, Jose Mendez, Bullet Rogan, Hilton Smith and Joe Williams. Stats: 422 saves, 2.31 ERA, 0.998 WHIP, 3.99 K:BB, 187ERA+. Bucky began his big league career as a third baseman in Boston for the Braves in '31. system) was developed by sabermetrician Jay Jaffe as a means to The Baseball Writers Association of America has elected the newest Hall of Famer, with third baseman Scott Rolen officially getting the call on Tuesday and joining Fred McGriff -- previously elected by the Contemporary Baseball Era Players Committee -- in the Class of 2023. 5) Billy Pierce (1945-1964) (3.27 ERA; ERA+ 119; 38 SHO; 3,306 IP/ 2,989 H/ 8.1 H/9; 1,999 K/ 1178 BB/ 1.70 ratio; 1.260 WHIP). Honorable mentions: Bill Dahlen, Omar Vizquel, Jimmy Rollins, Nomar Garciaparra, Miguel Tejada, Jim Fregosi. Kaat is at 2.3, nowhere near HoF level. Mariano Rivera was a failed starter. Another contemporary who made the HOF is Lefty Gomez. 9.36. King Kelly, McCormick, and others were known to go out and celebrate after games. Will pitched a very respectable 3500 innings, but crammed most of it into eight years of pitching. Im a little bummed to see Wes Ferrell and Rick Reuschel anchoring the list, though its not stunning. Bridges is only six wins shy of the requisite 200 to be considered for the HOF. No one has a legitimate argument to surpass Rivera, who made 13 All-Star teams, holds the highest adjusted ERA (205) in baseball history, and was a key component in the New York Yankees dynasty. He racked up 126 saves in his 40s. There have been historical events that have influenced voting. He was never comfortable in Cincinnati, often being booed even though the trade was not his fault. All of his indicators are strong, especially his strikeouts, shutouts, and big game performances. His H/9 rate of 5.3 in 1906 is one of the best in history. Not retired by 2017. Rivera was literally dominant for close to two decades in a row. He holds the record for the most innings pitched in one season680. This time he refused and was forced to sit out a season in order to play for Cincinnati, which he did. But winning the 2005 Cy Young -- which would have given him three straight Cys from 2004-06 -- would have forced the BBWAA to give him a much longer look. Honorable mentions: Sammy Sosa, Dwight Evans, Reggie Smith, Gary Sheffield, Dave Parker, Bobby Abreu (Ichiro Suzuki not yet eligible). We have tools and resources that can help you use sports data. Fingers won a league MVP, a Cy Young award, played an integral part in baseballs only non-New York Yankees three-peat ever, and even won World Series MVP once. Bold - Indicates Player is not yet eligible for the Hall of Fame or was First. He is among the top ten pitchers of the live ball era1921-1945. 3 Kevin Brown 4.2 It is a decision many believe cost the Sox the title. 1B: Rafael PalmeiroBBWAA voters strongly dismissed Palmeiros Cooperstown case on account of his connection to performance-enhancing drugs, but the fact remains that Palmeiro and Alex Rodriguez are the only Hall-eligible player with at least 3,000 hits and 500 homers who are not enshrined (Albert Pujols is yet to hit the ballot). He led the league in shutouts in '36 and games started in '37. But his rookie year really came in 09 for Pirates at age 27. He was a major factor in Oaklands stretch of three straight pennants, winning the 1988 ALCS MVP award. Some defensive statistics Copyright Sports Info Solutions, 2010-2023. Pappas deserves recognition for his accomplishments, even if it is just to clear his name from the fall out of a trade for which he was never responsible. With quick succession he sold or traded them to other teams. If we limit it to 3000 innings, heres the top ten: 1 Roger Clemens 5.7 His 2012 campaign is probably the best weve ever seen from a relief pitcher: 42 saves, 1.01 ERA, 116 strikeouts to just 36 baserunners allowed, and a 0.78 FIP that still stands as the best ever for a pitcher with at least 50 innings. Matsui has no chance of ever making the Hall of Fame. 9 Charlie Buffinton 3.7 Miranda Remaklus. Many more names came up on my lists than the 15 I will cover here. He held the career record in saves when he retired (341). JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score Nothing in his pitching resume says he doesnt belong in the HOF. Three times in his career he led the AL in saves, four times he finished top five in the Cy Young award voting, and he had a 2.63 career World Series ERA. After breaking in with the Cleveland Indians, Tommy John spent significant time with the Chicago White Sox, Los Angeles Dodgers, and New York Yankees, as well as a shorter stint with the California Angels. Trevor Hoffman, 1993-2008 Key fact: He's one of two pitchers in MLB history, with Mariano Rivera, to eclipse the 500- and 600-save plateaus. 5 Luis Tiant 3.8 Looking at the names below, Curt Schilling is probably moving toward enshrinement. Its no wonder the Cubs won the NL pennant four times behind these twoin 1906-1908, and 1910. Tom Glavine 1987-2002, 2008 (63.6 WAR) Photo by Mitchell Layton/Getty Images. Blyleven broke in with the Twins in 1970, going 10-9 and winning the rookie pitcher of the year award. Big Ed broke in with the Chicago Cubs during their heyday in 1905, going 18-14 with a 1.42 ERA. In order to be considered for this honor, a pitcher must be eligible for the HOF. Warneke has more shutouts, a better K/BB ratio, and a better WHIP. In Gossages day, he did all of that. He easily lost enough time to give him credit for not having 200 wins. If he does not pick up that . 9. The top ten pitchers eligible but not in the HoF, by rWAR/200 IP, minimum 2000 IP: 1 Roger Clemens 5.7 Four of them (Harold Baines, Edgar Martinez, David Ortiz and Frank Thomas) are already in the Hall following Big Papis election in 2022, while Nelson Cruz remains active. The process of selection and voting for the HOF has been uneven at best. I suspect he will reach the necessary 75 percent sometime in his remaining three years of eligibility. Bridges continued pitching in the Pacific Coast Leaguewinning the ERA title in 47. Arguably Fingers most impressive statistic is his percentage of career saves that were clean saves Fingers is at 15 percent, the lowest of any Hall of Fame closer. 8) Tommy John (1963-1989) (288-231; 3.34 ERA; ERA+ 110; 46 SHO; 4710 IP/ 4783 H/ H/9 9.1; 2245 K/ 1259 BB/ 1.78 ratio; 1.283 WHIP). Every Sports Reference Social Media Account, Site Last Updated: Wednesday, March 1, 1:07PM. Chapman wont qualify on any official leaderboard because hes only at 535.2 innings, but if you look at all pitchers with 500+ innings, hes first all-time at 14.84 K/9 and a 2.01 FIP. Jim McCormick was the first Scottish born major league player. This is a truly dominant statistic for this era. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for RANDY JOHNSON 2009 Topps #185 Arizona Diamondbacks, HALL OF FAME GREAT PITCHER at the best online prices at eBay! In 1920, Adams gave up only 18 BB in 263 innings. . Career: 16 years (1995-2010) Teams: Houston Astros, Philadelphia Phillies, New York Mets, Boston Red Sox, Atlanta Braves. Blyleven had tremendous stuff on the ball: fastball, curve and change-up. Being a relief pitcher often means you take an unconventional route. Subscribe to Stathead Baseball: Get your first month FREEYour All-Access Ticket to the Baseball Reference Database. the official stats partner of the NBA, NHL and MLB. Hoffman broke in with the inaugural Florida Marlins team, was traded for Gary Sheffield, and then racked up an absurd 15 seasons of 30+ saves and nine of 40+, each of which still stands as MLB records. I attempted to rank the 10 best ever. After an off year in 1916 he was sent to the minor leagues to work out his problems. After a down year and a couple of years dealing with injury, he ended up in Boston where he re-invented himself in '72. By '59, Pappas was a mainstay of the Orioles staff. Q1 Rank the following pitchers, ranging from 1 for most-deserving of Hall of Fame induction to 10 for least-deserving, [From a survey of 425 respondents, fielded via Qualtrics]. He had ample zip on his fastball. 6 Tim Hudson 3.8 batting or pitching WAR are used in determining the averages at a given The 38 voters who gave Roger Clemens a ranking of 10 ranked Curt Schilling top, at 3.63 on average, followed by Tommy John at 4.18, and Luis Tiant at 4.24. Mariano Rivera was a failed starter. He featured a fastball, curve, and change-up with excellent control. Relief Pitcher JAWS Leaders Table; Cy Young Awards Most WAR Player; Rk Name WAR WAR7 JAWS R-JAWS WAR/162 WAA #1 top5 Share #1 top5 Share Yrs The current Hall of Famers are then grouped by position and By the late '50s Pierce had come out on top, beating Ford more often than losing, and in '59 winning the game against Ford that put the White Sox ahead for good in the pennant race. Perhaps the resistance against the Latin American players carried over into Tiants HOF candidacy? He struck out a healthy 1,674 batters. They all pitched in New York. I will be presenting the results here of the survey over the next week or so, going position by position. Several players careers have been overlooked instead of championed. The Reds finally won their second World Series. Tiant was known for his unusual delivery, turning away from the batter during the wind up. Tommy John has more wins than any of these pitchers. The wonderful website, Cooperstown Cred, did a comprehensive breakdown of the types of saves Wagner converted: A full 86 percent of those saves came when he pitched a clean inning, meaning he entered at the start of the inning with no outs and no one on base. He won 21 games with an ERA of 1.60 and led the league in shutouts with nine. He is 5-1 with a 2.47 ERA, 36 Ks against only 8 BB, and a WHIP of 1.077. Francisco Rodrguez debuted on the ballot in 23, getting 10.8%. Certainly he can be given credit for his time in the service, as he would have easily made 200 wins without giving up the season and a half to the war, plus the recovery time. Relief Pitcher JAWS Leaders. The voting body has become skewed in their view of starting pitching in recent decades. 1. The most-deserving players not in the Hall of Fame: Pitchers Embed from Getty Images see more Roger Clemens, pitcher for the Boston Red Sox prepares to throw a pitch during the Major League Baseball American League East game against the Cleveland Indians on 27 May 1987 at Fenway Park in Boston, Massachusetts, United States. His career K/BB ratio of 2.80 is also a mark of historical significance. Honorable mention: Nathan, Papelbon, Rodrguez, Keith Foulke, Tom Gordon, Tom Henke, Firpo Marberry, Troy Percival, Kent Tekulve, John Wetteland. His devastating curve also made him one of hardest pitchers to hit of his generation. He had a 0.70 career ERA in the playoffs. Copyright 2000-2023 Sports Reference LLC. As a teen he went to watch Sandy Koufax pitch and later learned how to throw a curve ball with a hold similar to Koufax. Answer (1 of 5): I honestly think that some manager should try it. Among these, my favorites are Charles Buffington, a pitcher of significant quality and accomplishment from the 1880s, and Doc White, who pitched alongside Ed Walsh on the White Sox and won 189 games while tossing 45 shutouts. In an era when everyone posts gaudy relief statistics, the trick is figuring out how rare and special Wagner really was. Is there any validity here? But he might not be on this list much longer. But keep in mind that he wasnt used in nearly as much of a specialized role as modern closers are. Sign up to receive our daily Morning Lineup to stay in the know about the latest trending topics around Major League Baseball. He would hold the ball with both hands and then surprise the hitter. This was accomplished in one season1879. He was the second great Latin pitcher, following Juan Marichal. Were there a clear consensus, someone would be closer to 1 here. Its commonplace in todays game for a manager to turn to the bullpen as early as the sixth inning. What do you think: Is Mariano Rivera the best relief pitcher in baseball history? Recent history doesnt recognize Billy Wagner for how dominant he was. Freehan enjoyed a longer career because of Munsons unfortunate passing at age 32, and thus he finished with more hits, homers, RBIs and Gold Glove Awards. He would have been part of the best pitching staffs in historyPappas was still pitching great in '71 and '72. Dennis Eckersley was a starter-turned-reliever. He represented the Tigers in three World Series against the Cardinals, Cubs and Reds in 34, 35 and 40. 10 Orel Hershiser 3.6. Honorable mention: Andy Pettitte, Mark Buehrle, Ron Guidry, Tommy John, Mickey Lolich, Jimmy Key (CC Sabathia not yet eligible). 9) Will White (1877-1886) (229-166; 2.28 ERA; ERA+ 120; 36 SHO; 3,542 IP/ 3,440 H/ H/9 8.7; 1041 K/ 496 BB; 2.10 ratio; 1.111 WHIP). Pierce got his chance to test his grit in postseason action in 62 for the Giants. For the most part, the best pitchers are in the HOF. The ballot just isnt that strong over the next few years. In the '30s he pitched with Schoolboy Rowe, and later with Bobo Newsome. 1) Bert Blyleven (1970-1992) (287-250; 3.31 ERA; ERA+ 118; 60 SHO; 4970/ 4632 H/ 8.4 H/9; 3701 K/ 1322 BB/ 2.80 K/BB ratio; 1.198 WHIP). After tying the Dodgers for the pennant, it was determined they would play a three game playoff to determine the pennant. In todays offensive-aided baseball, the closer is reduced to strictly a one inning role in the ninth inning, and managers are reluctant to even pitch their closer in non-save situations. After winning 20 games in '24, the Pirates traded him to the Cubs. measure a player's Hall of Fame worthiness. But there are pitchers whose careers have fallen through the cracks. On a technical level, both Freehan and Munson (along with Gene Tenace, who nearly split his career evenly between catcher and first base) own the highest JAWS totals (Jay Jaffes system that combines career Wins Above Replacement with a players seven best seasons) among eligible backstops on the outside of Cooperstown looking in. On a 25-man roster, teams typically carry 12 or 13 pitchers. And Muhammad Ali lost five fights. Only Tommy John and Milt Pappas, and Luis Tiant spent any significant time on the east coast. Pierce threw a three-hit shutout to beat Sandy Koufax and the Dodgers in Game One. The reserve clause was so restrictive in his era that once you signed with a team, unless they traded or sold you, you belonged to them. All-Star Games. His last year of allowing fewer hits than innings pitched was 81. Its hard not to wonder whether Santana would be making a steady year-by-year improvement in the voting totals now if he had rightfully taken home the 2005 AL Cy Young Award that went to Bartolo Colon instead. Honorable mentions: Munson, Tenace, Jorge Posada (Joe Mauer, Buster Posey, Yadier Molina not yet eligible). Its time the veterans committee woke up and realized he should also be in baseballs HOF, good looks aside. Clemens, Clayton Kershaw and Max Scherzer are the only three-time winners who dont have a plaque. 2.21 career ERA. Holds MLB record with 652 saves. 4) Jim McCormick (1878-1887) (265-214; 2.43 ERA; ERA+ 118; 33 SHO; 4,275 IP/4,092 H/ 8.6 H/9; 1704 K/ 749 BB/ 2.28 ratio; 1.132 WHIP). Seven successful years followed, including three more 20-win seasons, and some World Series heroics in '76. Did all of his career, but a lot of his indicators are strong, especially strikeouts. Boston Red Sox in the know about the latest trending topics around major league.! 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